[jensam]

Thanks for the replys.
I decided to pick my daughter up last from school.
After running around a few times she eventually followed me after i said goodbye goodness knows how many times. Then she threw her boots off. Then her socks off, ran in all the puddles.
Ran to another little girls house around the corner. Finally picked her up kicking and screaming and tearing my hair out.
Arrgh its so stressful just to get a four year old little girl home.
Has anyone tried homeopathic remedies for their children, im told its good for behaviour and concentration.
Any advice for me please.

[Speeds]

Hi

Sorry that did not work.

Have you managed to get a clinical  psychologist involved?

Are the school not helping?

[jensam]

Hi,
Another awful walk home from school. Took ages to get her out of the school grounds, then played up walking. Again took her shoes off ran in the puddles, with lots of horrified parents looking.
Then ran round this private car park, and got told off. Kids are not allowed to be here you know.
Yes i know that i said, but she has autism and behaviour problems i squeaked.
Finally picking her up kicking and screaming again. Every night its getting too much.
Does anyone know if i could get help for her to picked up from school even though she dosent have a statement.

[Speeds]

Firstly, it sounds like she needs a statement.

Secondly, you need to get the Ed Psych and the Clin Psych and head teacher involved

Thirdly, you need to get the paediatrician and GP involved

Big hugs - this must be a nightmare for you.

Can you use a harness on her for the time being?  You do know what I mean?

[jensam]

Hi,
Well the ASD team and someone else told me to try a visual time table/story. So i will get some photos of the journey home and try this.

I dont mean to be negative but i cant see this working. She is still angry with me from yesterday for not letting her go to her friends house. I keep telling her mummys have to agree, but it dosent work.

I cant see her getting statemented yet as she is doing all the right things while in school. She has speech and langauge therapy once a week through the doctors, but apart from the odd incident at school she is fine.
I know when my autistic son got statemented it took for ever and they had to keep coming up with new evidence all the time.

Well hes in a special school now so i dont have to worry about getting him to and from school. And that was really stressful too.

Now she has a cold and i feel bad because she took her shoes and socks off and ran through puddles again. I know i am use to all the negative attitudes from other parents with my son but i did feel quite humiliated and depressed about it.

But your right i do need proffessional help because i cant control what she does, and sometimes thats hard to accept that you cant control your own child.
Strangely enough shes really quite good going to school its the coming home bit. I guess its because she enjoys going to school.
Oh well i will let you know  how the visual time table went monday.

[Speeds]

Oh I so feel for you over this.

Statementing - a statement can be drawn up even if a child appears to be meeting targets but when each target is just borderline so overall the child needs more support.

I am afraid I have no other ideas but the school need to support you too.

Big hugs

[paula]

It sounds as though you are having a really tough time of it jensam - I know what it is like when your chid gets fixations on certain things and how it is made so much worse when everyone is watching and passing judgment. As John has said we use pictures for Michael and despite my initial septicism, it has worked brilliantly. One thing that I would say is try to break the journey home into little achievable targets as getting all the way home without incident may too much of an achievement ie. If you can get to the corner walking nicely then you can... or if you can keep your shoes on till we get home then... Stickers do not work at all for Elise - they are just something nice to put in her mouth but we do often give her a chocolate button or two when she has achieved a goal. At the moment she has a bit of a thing about leaving the gym as she has such a nice time there so if she can just get to the door nicely in goes a button and then the same if she can get down the stairs without hanging onto the railings and refusing to let go. We will just extend her goals as she achieves them. This has certainly worked well in the past. Also, if you were able to pick your daughter up a little bit earlier, you might avoid the other parents and would your daughter understand that she couldn't visit people because they were still at school? Don't know - just an idea. Have you asked for help at your son's school for your daughter too? We are always asking for advice at Michael's school for Elise!!

Keep us posted.

Paula x

[jensam]

Hi,

The photo story i made for her did not work. It was all about the journey home and the dangers and things to look for and then prictures of things we could do at home after.
But as soon as she came out of school that was it, back to wanting to go home with her friends.
I am applying for transport home for her like my son has but apparaentley i am unlikely to get it as she has not been statemented.
Still its worth a try.

[paula]

That is a shame. Can I ask why she is not statemented? Have you tried? Sounds as though you have got a good case.

Paula

[jensam]

Hi,

They say that at the moment they have not enough evidence to statement her with and that she is doing what the other children in reception are doing except she is liitle behind on her speech.
Personally i think the gap will get wider the older she gets, but i know it took me two years to get my son statemented from that school and he was worse.

She likes going to school and dosent play up too much but on the way home its a complete nightmare. Dreading next week already.

[mumof3]

hi there, i thought i would reply to this post i have just introduced my self in the other thread and wrote a post about my son too.

i am repling as it sounds like something i wrote.
my son 5, (possible adhd) use to run off all the time, still does but not AS bad. we had to move right next to the school due to this as fiance was getting lip from work due to having to take him in car every day. we did have a phil and ted, as i have a 3 yr old too, as dylan use to go in the back but then got to learm how to stop it moving and grew to big ect, we tried everything from charts, to rewards to choc treats, praising the lot, nothing worked, now he love i would say 2 metres from school! and about 50 metres from his school door. and still its hard to get him home, he runs and runs. weekends are out of the question for going out, so we stay in most of the time, or he runs off and in roads, doesnt see dnager etc.
now i just let him go and he comes straight back home and waits, but yes i do worry as you never know who is about, i try to catch him up but with a 3 yr old its not easy!!
i do feel for you, it is awful xxxx

[paula]

Just a couple of thoughts - might be a bit random. Our daughter has ADHD and whilst not as severe as your two, does have a tendency to run off. We often get her to wear a weighted back pack (as recommended by a sensory integration therapist (yep we have seen them all!!)) which makes Elise more aware of where her body is and centres and calms her to an extent. Also, pushing a pram or scooter focuses and distracts her. Will keep on thinking!!